tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post5166616255107461101..comments2023-07-01T14:53:34.268+02:00Comments on A Green and Rosie Life: Peppa Pig and Sausages A Green and Rosie Lifehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-87694015758061430652016-03-11T09:15:10.629+01:002016-03-11T09:15:10.629+01:00My first job was aged 7 delivering milk in our vil...My first job was aged 7 delivering milk in our village in Yorkshire, it was delivered with a shire horse and cart, i used to ride on the cart and drop the milk off at houses with the adults, at the end of the delivery i was allowed to drink the fresh milk straight from the cows, i then helped collected the eggs and box them up for the farm shop. Despite being involved with this I was never exposed to how the fresh meat ended up in the farm shop and when we saw the cattle/sheep/pig holidays my parents always told me they were going on holiday to the sea side, whether I asked or not, I just ate what was put on my plate and never questioned it, but I knew sausages came from pigs, burgers from cows etc, etc. <br />Our children have grown up differently as my husband works in the food industry. We took our then 4 year old niece to a farm, she wanted to see the pigs, her words, not mine 'I want to see real piggies, not silly Peppa Pig ones. I just think with all things in life, we tell our children the truth when they ask.chickenrubyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731936852696584642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-52092628585383423802016-03-10T20:37:39.942+01:002016-03-10T20:37:39.942+01:00Oops — forgot to say — I'm coming over from #P...Oops — forgot to say — I'm coming over from #PoCoLoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14369715721531428928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-60538738589434787582016-03-10T20:37:20.985+01:002016-03-10T20:37:20.985+01:00Blimey — I've never thought of petting farms a...Blimey — I've never thought of petting farms as 'dumming down'? Rather the opposite — they're a great way for kids to get close to animals and learn about them aren't they? Great post — and I totally agree. Luckily we have chickens and our boys know that the ones in the garden are the same as the ones on their plate so *hopefully*, as they get older, they'll learn to appreciate where the meat they're eating comes from.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14369715721531428928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-35681771379354272692016-03-10T13:14:21.539+01:002016-03-10T13:14:21.539+01:00Interesting post Rosie, I'm not sure it's ...Interesting post Rosie, I'm not sure it's Peppa and her ilk per se but there is a complete disconnect for too many people about where their food comes from. I'm reminded of the Jamie Oliver programmes where the kids in a school (up the road from me incidentally) weren't able to identify vegetables. And it's a very sad state of affairs. I think this partly stems from an indifference to food, the ready meals and dare I say it the rise of the supermarkets. Now I'm a child of the 70s and have been dished up vespa curries and pot noodles but I know that they're not the only things to live on, and even though I've lived in London all my life I know where food comes from. I definitely haven't been at the messy end for which I'm thankful for, but it's nature right, and a living for a lot of people (although less than before). <br /><br />I also think this disconnect is due to laziness and having an easy life and glossing over the facts. My niece was a toddler during the BSE crisis and you think they don't pick up on this, but when she was playing with her toy farm we often found the animals with their legs in the air just like she'd seen on the TV. Explaining that the animals were sick was accepted as fact and thankfully she stopped that particular game, but it does just go to show doesn't it?<br /><br />Sorry that was a bit of an essay - but thanks so much for linking up to #pocolo :)Stephanie 139ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15272197074159910894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-60247742584026121802016-03-10T10:14:25.847+01:002016-03-10T10:14:25.847+01:00And because your children learnt young where their...And because your children learnt young where their meat came from I am sure they were completely accepting of that - it is when we lie to or hide the facts from children in the mistaken belief that they will be upset that the problems start. <br /><br />In France, when you buy a whole chicken from a butcher or off the meat counter in a supermarket it comes with its head.A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-67092626602728662882016-03-09T14:57:45.048+01:002016-03-09T14:57:45.048+01:00My goodness. I'd not thought of the angle of p...My goodness. I'd not thought of the angle of petting farms and TV dumming down children's perspective before. Not an issue for us as we live opposite a farm, which supplies us with meat. My children know that the cute lamb we chat to over the fence, may end up in our freezer. They have always known that, so no surprise. <br /><br />Connecting to the natural world is a must. Otherwise a burger in a bun or a cellophoned headless chicken is just nameless. I remember reading a book where the character would not eat fish unless he could see its eyes. Makes sense.Cherylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458243149834190714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-77246412222014943872016-03-07T16:52:20.193+01:002016-03-07T16:52:20.193+01:00I always smile when I see rabbit on the school men...I always smile when I see rabbit on the school menu here in France - that just wouldn't happen in the UK.A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-36877381187571116342016-03-07T09:27:57.419+01:002016-03-07T09:27:57.419+01:00like French children still do, the things you see ...like French children still do, the things you see hanging up even in our supermarket butcher (let alone butcher butcher) leave no doubt about where your meat comes from! I think it's a combination of everything really...Phoebe @ Lou Messugohttp://www.loumessugo.com/en/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-87167989378543692682016-03-07T08:24:24.789+01:002016-03-07T08:24:24.789+01:00There certainly is a way and a place to broach the...There certainly is a way and a place to broach the subject and I think the first thing is to help children realise the difference between Peppa and real pigs! Thank you for commenting, it is much appreciated. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-63187781868172039202016-03-07T08:21:37.344+01:002016-03-07T08:21:37.344+01:00I totally agree ... and the subject of naming farm...I totally agree ... and the subject of naming farm animals is another blog post I have brewing in my head. Thank you for commenting and tweeting, Debs, it is much appreciated.A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-78157504130119159402016-03-07T08:19:23.992+01:002016-03-07T08:19:23.992+01:00Small amounts of truth as and when the moment is r...Small amounts of truth as and when the moment is right. She may ask you or a situation may arise that allows you to broach the subject. However it happens though, I think you'll find she will be more accepting than if you lie to her or avoid the subject until she is much older. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-66136361798741641842016-03-07T08:16:39.653+01:002016-03-07T08:16:39.653+01:00I used to be vegetarian, not because I didn't ...I used to be vegetarian, not because I didn't like the idea of eating meat but because it made me feel bloated. However once I started to eat organic and free-range meat I was fine. Now virtually all the meat I eat is our own and I am fine with that. As for naming our animals is an interesting subject that I will be talking about in another blog post soon ... A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-49996484674664794992016-03-07T08:13:42.043+01:002016-03-07T08:13:42.043+01:00Two very good points - thank you. Two very good points - thank you. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-47339498050813934932016-03-07T08:12:36.432+01:002016-03-07T08:12:36.432+01:00It is quite eye-opening when you realise how many ...It is quite eye-opening when you realise how many people have not made the connection and I fear it is getting worse. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-88563808806725088942016-03-07T08:11:16.034+01:002016-03-07T08:11:16.034+01:00Yes, it is vital we tell our children the truth so...Yes, it is vital we tell our children the truth so they can make up their own minds - but too many people don't. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-85122955884205496902016-03-07T08:09:44.031+01:002016-03-07T08:09:44.031+01:00I think if you are open with kids from an early ag...I think if you are open with kids from an early age they are very accepting of what they are eating but I do think if more people really knew about factory farming they might turn veggie. I would hope though, that they might turn to eating ethically produced meat if they were to continue eating meat. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-23298601400732746102016-03-07T08:05:19.499+01:002016-03-07T08:05:19.499+01:00I think when Beatrix Potter starting dressing up a...I think when Beatrix Potter starting dressing up animals though, the vast majority of children still knew where their meat came from - they would have seen rabbits hanging up outside the local butcher's shop. Now all that is hidden from our children and the connections are not made. And as for cotton woolling our children, just don't get me started on that one! That Matt cartoon you sent me just summed it all up perfectly. A Green and Rosie Lifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02501989987736281707noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-74627577177872026162016-03-06T13:55:25.036+01:002016-03-06T13:55:25.036+01:00I do agree that children should know where their f...I do agree that children should know where their food comes from. The reason I actually clicked on your post was because when I saw the title, it reminded me of an incident last year. We'd taken our daughter to the farm and there was a little cafe on site. You could smell the cooking bacon and one of the dads there turned to his little boy and said 'They're cooking Peppa Pig'. The kid looked shocked then got quite upset. <br />Obviously I wouldn't have phrased it quite like that, but it did make me wonder what the appropriate age is to bring up the subject. This little boy was only about two or three at the most and as you say, most children are very accepting - but I would worry my daughter would have the same reaction (although obviously I wouldn't word it the same way as the guy at the farm!).<br />#FabFridayPostMummy's Bloghttp://www.mummysblog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-62760973851924917732016-03-06T07:34:03.549+01:002016-03-06T07:34:03.549+01:00Hi Rosie, children shouldn't be 'protected...Hi Rosie, children shouldn't be 'protected' from where meat comes fro, that's just plain daft. We are designed to be meat eaters and there is nothing wrong with children being taught what meat come from where.<br /><br />Not only should children know where their meat is coming from they should also be made aware of the right and wrong conditions that the animals reared for slaughter should be bought up in. My Auntie kept a selection of animals, some as pets and some for the table and all animals were treated equally (except the animals for slaughter were never given a name). As children we visited her and when an animal was missing we were fully aware that we'd probably just had it for dinner.<br /><br />Children have a wonderful ability to absorb the facts, that doesn't mean that at the age of three they need to know all the details, but it does mean that they probably won't lose too much sleep knowing that sausage on their plate came from a pig or a cow.<br /><br />xxDebbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933494199087059715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-65746162558160631052016-03-05T14:55:26.102+01:002016-03-05T14:55:26.102+01:00I have no idea, I'm dreading this question fro...I have no idea, I'm dreading this question from my two year old. I don't want to lie to her, but I don't want to upset her either... It's a bit heavy for a two year old peppa fan. I have no idea!Franhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07005537088982104153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-69965097616617395662016-03-05T10:20:46.639+01:002016-03-05T10:20:46.639+01:00My nine year old howled with laughter when she cau...My nine year old howled with laughter when she caught sight of those Peppa sausages. :)<br />Our lazy, convenient lifestyles certainly mean children have lost the connection of where their food comes from. We have a veg patch and chickens, and have always been very matter of fact about where our food comes from. Our friends also have a farm which we visit regularly - each time a boy is born on the farm the kids are fully aware that it won't get named and why. If we eat meat I think it's important our children respect where it comes from, not protected from the harsh reality. <br />Ironically the farming friend was a lifelong vegetarian until she hooked up with the rare breeds farmer...attitudes can soon be changed. ;) Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06416850533243895672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-54108402047526845222016-03-05T04:15:26.195+01:002016-03-05T04:15:26.195+01:00When my nephew's firstborn was a baby, he woul...When my nephew's firstborn was a baby, he would correct me when I would be feeding the baby a piece of chicken, etc and tell me that they called it "meat" and did not want the baby to associate chickens, cows, etc with the learning games they were playing (ie. "What does the chicken say?" "cluck-cluck." "What does the cow say?" "Moooo." And etc.) I thought "This is bunk! He'll have to learn sooner or later where "meat" comes from. Why make it possibly more traumatic?" And on another tangent, why should anyone think that animals are ONLY here for our purposes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-33932969443286285942016-03-04T21:41:36.576+01:002016-03-04T21:41:36.576+01:00I reckon this would get my son to eat them! I reme...I reckon this would get my son to eat them! I remember when Babe came out and several of my friends became vegetarian and I was so bemused that it took a talking pig for them to make the connection.Moderate Mumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08494395272179422779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-10652959228501990592016-03-04T19:13:52.592+01:002016-03-04T19:13:52.592+01:00Of course not! Peppa should not be blame for this....Of course not! Peppa should not be blame for this. I tells my children where their food come from and we do local farm visit regularly. Ethan even got to be the first one who bottle feed a new lamb. If one day, they decided to be vegetarians then it is really up to them - I can't stop that. But it is important that they know the actuality of it all, and even better how they are farm ethically. Thank you very much for linking up with us. It is an important topic. #FabFridayPostSuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18229774062983762988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2878260668698530448.post-65615992959637715772016-03-04T17:22:37.772+01:002016-03-04T17:22:37.772+01:00Such a thought provoking piece and love your Peppa...Such a thought provoking piece and love your Peppa mock-up...I suspect if we did make more kids aware of where their food comes from (and the conditions they live in) we'd have a lot more vegetarians today... #FabFridayPostYOUTHEDADDYhttp://www.youthedaddy.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com